Subject	They could do it this way:
Posted by	Marshall on January 14, 2005 at 10:49 AM
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In Reply To	Don't they HAVE to bypass the switch posted by SactoTodd on January 14, 2005 at 09:21 AM
Message	With a switch, it's like a conditional statement: IF clutch switch= engaged..... car starts If you have 2 switches, you can set the logic to something like this, a simple truth table: Neutral switch Clutch switch Car start? No No No Yes No No No Yes No Yes Yes Yes To achieve something like that, you can probably just wire both switches up in series so the signal only gets there if both switches are engaged.
Follow Ups	Car Manual - Please read - Lawsuit pending - JayT 07:53:29 01/14/05 Most documentation I've read says to put the car IN gear, in - BoneZ 08:09:31 01/14/05 The shop bypassed the clutch, without telling me. (n/m) - JayT 08:26:51 01/14/05 The remote start is not OEM.... - MidnightZ 08:15:23 01/14/05 Correct. (n/m) - Jason(MD) 08:17:24 01/14/05 I don't believe remote start was an option either. But, I - Haasz32 08:20:08 01/14/05 Bought the car used... from a dealer. (n/m) - JayT 08:24:17 01/14/05 I'm also sorry to hear that this happened to you. - MidnightZ 08:39:21 01/14/05 I agree... - MidnightZ 08:35:34 01/14/05 Sorry to hear about that. At least you weren't too seriously - Haasz32 08:16:04 01/14/05 This is why remote start is not installed in manual cars. - hoss 08:35:20 01/14/05 2nd (n/m) - Haasz32 10:41:22 01/14/05 thats too bad bro. the inst of remote starter is at - Carlo$-91NA-2+2-5$p 08:45:05 01/14/05 but his car was an auto before WITH the remote start.... - PiotrC70 08:53:57 01/14/05 Tough luck for you, remote start on a manual transmission - ENVYMYZ 08:59:09 01/14/05 illegal?? I find that somewhat hard to believe (n/m) - hey GotBo0st 14:35:38 01/14/05 I hope you heal up well. (n/m) - Kenny 09:12:28 01/14/05 You started the car without knowing if the car was in gear - Guapo 09:13:26 01/14/05 negative on that! thats what safet switch is for. (n/m) - Carlo$-91NA-2+2-5$p 09:15:21 01/14/05 Right. So what does that have to do with him not checking - Guapo 09:26:42 01/14/05 I know.... - craziestbob 10:11:59 01/14/05 only true in a perfect world. Most of our Zs aren't perfect. (n/m) - SniPer SR71 (Dallas) 14:55:24 01/14/05 Brilliant! Sue the switch for not telling you! (n/m) - zboost 10:43:28 01/14/05 It's amazing..... - titefit 09:14:08 01/14/05 Even better-----> - Kyle(Houston) 09:21:27 01/14/05 *DING DING DING* We have a winner! - ENVYMYZ 09:37:51 01/14/05 Ahhhh, thats a negative. - craziestbob 10:07:13 01/14/05 Turn the remote start off when leaving the car with - ENVYMYZ 10:20:24 01/14/05 I like Just4kinks' solution... the 'start in neutral only' - craziestbob 10:34:44 01/14/05 ditto. (n/m) - Halo Z 10:56:40 01/14/05 I have remote start on my manual TT. - just4kinks 09:19:19 01/14/05 Don't they HAVE to bypass the switch - SactoTodd 09:21:14 01/14/05 The switch has to be bypassed, but not completely - just4kinks 09:23:26 01/14/05 They could do it this way: - Marshall 10:49:57 01/14/05 I just use the key. (n/m) - SactoTodd 10:53:01 01/14/05 But that makes too much sense. - Marshall 10:55:21 01/14/05 I have the Viper/Python Responder....yes, the neutral - SpeedyZX 13:00:34 01/14/05 Yup, on my Viper alarm you have to press one button twice - U ZCREAM 13:21:56 01/14/05 Also, there is a neutral safety switch built into the Z... - just4kinks 09:22:41 01/14/05 That sounds like a 100X better solution than bypassing - craziestbob 10:15:31 01/14/05 Yellow w/ light blue wire. Pin 44 at ECU (n/m) - mpbond(STL) 13:13:12 01/14/05 you can also disable the clutch safety feature >> - SniPer SR71 (Dallas) 14:52:45 01/14/05 im sueing the ocean because the water is too cold (n/m) - genic 09:30:50 01/14/05 Why bother sueing? - Jason(MD) 09:35:14 01/14/05 Yeah right. Chances are he wins this with his hands tied - ENVYMYZ 09:39:56 01/14/05 Did they even know it had a remote start? EVERY time I leave - whitepearlz 09:36:30 01/14/05 Chalk it up to bad luck and be glad you're not dead. (n/m) - JRH(KY) 09:59:23 01/14/05 Did not ask for advice for Lawsuit, Only asked about the Man - JayT 10:11:00 01/14/05 Ok, Yes you are supposed to put it in gear. - cshell 10:17:44 01/14/05 Thanks. (n/m) - JayT 10:21:29 01/14/05 Also, the NHTSA passed a law that requires all - cshell 10:36:43 01/14/05 The switch to turn off the remote start should be somewhere - ENVYMYZ 10:23:43 01/14/05 He didn't mean to remote start the car... he was trying to - Haasz32 10:55:10 01/14/05 operator error (n/m) - SactoTodd 11:02:00 01/14/05 2nd. - SniPer SR71 (Dallas) 14:50:50 01/14/05 Re: He didn't mean to remote start the car... he was trying to - ZX 2B U 06:32:46 01/15/05 I've always heard to park in gear with parking brake. (n/m) - hoss 10:33:19 01/14/05 Pardon my smile - and I'm not making light of your - titefit 11:31:17 01/14/05 Your car's ECU output the following datastream: - Marshall 11:03:15 01/14/05 ROFL. (n/m) - Kenny 12:35:13 01/14/05 +2 for you (n/m) - genic 13:15:51 01/14/05 don't you mean +10? (n/m) - SactoTodd 13:26:45 01/14/05 1 (n/m) - genic 14:40:44 01/14/05 Damn.you almost had to change your screen name to JayD.. - GiZmo 11:26:55 01/14/05 good luck, read the remote start owners manual - Red October 11:45:56 01/14/05 2nded.... remote start installations are discouraged - SpeedyZX 13:01:49 01/14/05 3rd, see linked rant - Thrillhouse 14:10:37 01/14/05 Re: Car Manual - Please read - Lawsuit pending - BDz32 (FL) 14:06:25 01/14/05 just an innocent question..... - Zcrup92 (VW Wussy) 14:12:05 01/14/05 on cold days you can pre-heat the motor/car - SactoTodd 14:19:14 01/14/05 Pipebomb detonator of course...don't you watch TV? (n/m) - NAZTTy 17:02:27 01/14/05 According to my drivers safety course and insurance's course - yawgm0thzx 23:35:33 01/14/05
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